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and things are getting better just in time for you to realize that you can't keep your doctor. that's it for our "willis report." thank you for joining us and we will see you right back here tomorrow. lou: white house officials insisted that they met their self-imposed deadline to fix health care knockout and they claim that it's working smoothly for the majority of users on health care knockout. but the facts suggest otherwise. i am lou dobbs. ♪ ♪ lou: good evening, everyone. the obama administration official in charge of fixing the obamacare site. he said there is a night and day difference between the health website that launched on october 1 in the one working today. wartime here.
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according to the white house, a five-week technology surge has doubled the website capacity and equipment can handle 30,000 consumers at the same time. and with some good reason. this is the page that came up when our colleague peter ducey logon. a page of gibberish filled with question marks. and it's not just frustrated consumers but insurers say that they are still dealing with an obamacare mass because functions have not even been built yet. and that means the administration's goal of enrolling 7 million people by the end of march, well, that could be the latest in what has turned out to be a string of second term failures for this president. chief white house correspondent ed henry has more on what is
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actually different about health reporter: president obama's aides struggled to explain whether they really met the deadline to fix health care.gob after there has been so much weight time, which the white house insists is progress. >> i think you're confusing error messages with queuing messages. >> the site has been performing well and there is not a reason to deploy the queuing system at this point department with 375,000 users logging on on monday, errors and response times increased and consumers
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were told to come back at a better time. >> the goal is to enroll more people. >> more people are visiting the website and are able to effectively go from beginning to end when it comes to enrolling than was the case in october. reporter: insurance companies put out a new warning that the backend systems of the website meant to deliver consumer information to insurers are still not ready. >> kathleen sebelius come in to health and human services secretary issued a desperate plea, writing in usa today that those americans who have experienced difficulties online, please do not give up.
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in the marketplace as an opportunity for individuals without employer insurance to obtain coverage. with choice and competition that was previously unavailable. though the administration's own progress report on stated that the team is operating with private sector velocity and effectiveness, raising questions about whether the administration can turn the corner. we met it's an acknowledgment that this was a government operation for a long time and it failed and now we are bringing in the private sector. that is an indictment on the whole idea of government is a solution. reporter: the administration took a bit of a victory lap this weekend about the question is whether online users are being moved from one waiting line to another. lou: ed henry, thank you. the problems, on cybermonday.
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when millions of people logon to website operating from the private sector. can handle 2.7 million visitors per day were 80 million per month. ebay gets 4 million per day. 120 million per month, even gets more than 50,000 visitors per day. more than 130 million americans plan to shop online at some point today. their user experiences will mirror the obamacare website despite the vast traffic differences. cybermonday is expected to generate $2 billion in sales. in the meanwhile, retail sales dropped to got off to a slow start over the thanksgiving weekend and down nearly 3% from year a year ago to 57.4 billion.
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their reports of brick-and-mortar sites at a texas wal-mart that led to disorderly conduct citations for two women. on wall street, stocks finishing lower, the s&p down five points, the nasdaq lost 15 points. and raising as much as $2.4 billion, making it the biggest hotel ipo in history. the author of 100 million shares. in the company's ipo, goldman sachs and deutsche bank eighth twitter
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88 rating. and bank of america fell. two major decisions today from the supreme court. a challenge rejected the obamacare at a christian college in virginia. saying that it violated the constitution by requiring most to provide health insurance to their workers or pay a fine in the supreme court refused to hear an appeal by online retailers to draw a new york state law that requires customers to pay a new york state sales tax, even if they are buying online. if you live in those states with sales taxes, you will have to pay the very same taxes as you would in one of those brick and mortar stores. much more is still ahead and we will take a look at the global hotspots ignored by the obama administration and the national media. revolution breaking out entirely.
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but what does the doctor and say? what does mr. obama say? and the president trying to keep congress from passing new sanctions against iran. we will be joined by ralph peters in k.t. mcfarland with the analysis. we will await results from cybermonday. jen rogers joins us to tell us what it means for the to be american economy and the global economy as well. we are coming right back. the obama administration touting dramatic improvements out of, and that is not what we are finding. we will be talking with the former director, tom scully, on what is really going on with obamacare. as a business owner, i'm constaly putting out fires. so i deserve a small business credit card
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lou: our first guest is here to serve at least partly as a tutor for you will end me. he says that obamacare is the biggest middle-class entitlement ever conceived and he says beyond the flawed website, we need to stay focused on the fact that health care law spends too much on the wrong people. joining us tonight is tom scully. he is the former leader for medicare and medicaid services during the bush administration and also a health policy staffer in the bush xli white house. in a new york private equity firm expert on health care. we are hearing great skepticism our own reporters and correspondent, peter ducey,
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getting error messages when he logs on and it looks to be a bit of a mess. what do you think? >> i'm sure it's getting better, i think it's a lot better from a consumer point of view from what i can tell. i think the insurance company at the end of the day, i think that they are having a huge problem with income verification that will be a big problem for the blue cross blue shield plans, trying to figure out who gets what subsidies. and i think you'll really know if it takes that long, possibly march or april. lou: march or april. the guy in charge of getting this thing fixed, he said that he could make it by the end of december. and another expert said he is confident that he will work it
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out by 2017. cities did he think there is a lack of management and the white house, if so, will the program be working if they had it together? >> there are huge subsidies. and it's a littll messy. and they are pretty far beyond where they were. lou: when you talk about smart people, you have worked in the private sector as well as on-air and i know a lot of smart people and, one of the first rules being counseled on was just remember that. what it got people involved, it
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screwed up. no matter what level you work at, it was ignored by a government and administration of frank we had very little obvious experience and not with any kind. >> obviously this is much bigger and the current administrator, i've known her for 25 years and she's very great. but there's a lot they can do on the i.t. side and theee's a lot they can do. they have a long way to go, it will be a mess for a long time. to me, the bigger issue wasd ona 200 billion-dollar entitlement program and they are giving a lot of subsidies to a lot of people. and it will work largely because of the subsidies. in many cases, their huge amounts of taxpayers dollars
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going into the wrong hands. lou: ed henry pointed out a line in the administration's report saying that they have decided about the performance on the website, they have gone all private sector and they needed new levels of private sector efficiency and doing things correctly and an outright admission that the government is not the solution. so why in the world do we continue to entertain with trillions of taxpayer dollars that government is the appropriate engine of revolution for so many of these problems in our society. >> i could not agree more. i could not agree more that we should get the blue cross plans together and say let's figure this out and get things done a lot more quickly.
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and they are learning that the hard way. lou: they are learning the hard way, they are good people and smart people, but these are not people that they give a darn about. i am concerned about the american people and the administration that seems to be capable of very little. the idea that we had gone through this over the last three fiscal years, they raised over $50 billion in revenues for the affordable care act. there is an additional 500 -- can we put that up just to go through that? $50 billion collected and then of course this year and next, we are through the next 10 years and we wound $500 billion. creating unfunded liabilities because of the enormous shift of medicaid as a result of obamacare.
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$17 trillion in additional unfunded liability. >> these are massive entitlements and those are poor people who probably need it, and you can argue about that. but the exchanges are huge amounts of subsidies, 62% of americans qualify for subsidies. lou: in obamacare? >> yes. 62% or a family of four. lou: i can never before imagined. >> i hope that people, i know the website is a mess, but i hope that people will understand that you can't subsidize 62% of americans for anything. eventually this will work maybe two years or five years from now. for better or worse, this thing probably will keep going.
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there are massive subsidies for a number of people. but it's probably not coming back. lou: there's another way to frame it on what you have said but tell me if i'm correct. what you're saying is that if it does work we won't be so thrilled that it's working as scared to death for how to pay for a? >> that is my point. you can debate about whether it will work or not, but it scares me the number untrendy amount of money that we are spending. lou: we sure do need to raise the iq of folks running this government, republican and democrat. tom, thank you so much and come back soon. we will need the help. lou: now to the weekend box office. just as everyone seems to have been at the movies. lions gate claiming the top spot, raking in $110 million
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over the holiday weekend. a thanksgiving weekend record, a second-place finish, frozen. 93 million over the same period. becoming disney's biggest animated opening of all time. the dark world coming in third, $15.5 million. it sounds like a pretty good weekend for disney. coming up next, the president headed to asia looking more like something of a curtsy. is the white house caving on china's demands for international airspace we have k.t. mcfarland and others taking a look at that and other global hotspots coming up next. 's corr. cause i'm really nervous about getting trapped. why's that? uh, mark? go get help!
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lou: tonight, a look at a number of global hotspots and the number is rising. the taliban reportedly urging hamid karzai to reject a long-term security deal with the united states to keep our troops in his country pass next year. and he will choose his successor in april. senate democrats voting on new
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sanctions in iran, even though the white house is trying to stop them, saying such measures would undermine this for a long-term deal that would restrain if not end their nuclear weapon ambitions. and syria's chemical weapons stockpile that has to be removed by the end of this month. it will most likely be destroyed on a ship undetermined as yet, somewhere in the mediterranean. also undetermined. thousands of demonstrators demanding that the president resign over a last-minute decision to mmke a trade agreement in favor of closer ties to russia. an ongoing anti-government clashes. demonstrators calling for her resignation, accusing her of being a proxy for her exiled brother, who is himself deposed
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as prime minister in a coup in 2006. in china, efforts to claim control over international airspace around a group of islands administered by the japanese for decades has prompted president obama to dispatch president bite into the region and he is there tonight in tokyo. the contested area of the islands in the south china sea contains an estimated 60 to 100 million barrels of oil and probable reserves. and we thought that we would point out this motivation in august. the u.s. navy has confirmed that aircraft have arrived in japan, boosting the ability to hunt submarines and joining us now is national security analyst k.t. mcfarland. and lieutenant colonel ralph peters. thank you both for being here. let me begin, if i may, colonel.
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these moves to expand the international domain and dominion that has been administered by the japanese for years and years is pure blunt force, is it not? >> yes, they perceive him as weak, the chinese and it's not just them. the north koreans, as you know, forcing to make phony confession on tape ann they know that obama will do nothing. he's throwing a bipolar hissy fit. ukraine is going this way and obama turned away from the protesters and did nothing. and the unifying theme of all of these incidents and more is that obama is not only not feared, he is mocked.
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lou: the unifying team, all of these flareups around the world, i can't remember where there was a time and the obama administration is standing silent on each one of them. >> the international relations is like a giant shark tank. and if they see blood in the water, they start going in and that's what is happening with obama. he's getting pushed around, trying to improve this, saying that they can push them around, and the iranian thinking they can do it by the syrians who operate over. and they are all going to take advantage of it. >> the chinese are doing
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something that is asserting themselves clearly. the united states telling the american carriers, all of them, to exceed in turnover flight plans to the chinese and the japanese are refusing to do so. >> they have changed this great big area of the western pacific as if it's like lake michigan. if anyone needs to get permission from us to do that. and that's not what we have done in the past. what we have said it will be what the chinese say, don't go into the zone and when you start doing that, initially what they wanted was to be notified and soon you'll have to have our permission. >> at a sort of the implication anyway, is in a? >> well, a fundamental problem is they are all academics.
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when i used to speak when the reality confronted contradicts the fear that you learned at the kennedy school at harvard, the problem is the obama crowd clinging to the series that don't work. no country is willing to help us at sea. remember how the left mocked bush and they were almost 50 countries behind him and the obama administration, he can't get a single country, not even albania to help us destroy chemical weapons. lou: don't you think it's nice to include this for the
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president? right now, no response to vladimir putin in the middle east and we have joe biden or in one wonders why. because there's only one thing that seems practical to do in reply. and we would support our ally and we would not tolerate any more of this arrogance and they tell me that china is a market-based economy and they are acting like a bunch of communists in the cold war. >> because they can get away with that. but i think they will have something really important. it's not just that our adversaries are pushing us around and taking advantage. it is our friends and allies as well. and it's like, what wait a
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minute, if the israelis saying you've been with us for 30 years in the iranian regime at the expense of the? basically what they have said is that if you like it, you can keep it. >> it is a startlingly important point. and that is whether the cold war has been in our history, not only forcing it in conflict, but there is a principle reduction of capitalism and freedom. it is unclear what the values are of this country. and it's unclear what the
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influences, whatever that may be today when we talk about the peoples republic of china. >> the tragedy is one of president, when an entire country loses credibility with his enemies and allies, it's hard to get back in and this was the obama administration's philosophy goes, there is an old country song by conway twitty, make the world go away, and i think that that is the obama philosophy. and i hope it goes away. lou: he was thinking of a higher purpose. thank you so much. we appreciate it.
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coming up next, black friday sales were disappointing, but it doesn't mean the economies and markets would move lower. we will find out. the legendary investor joins us next. >> the extreme left teaming up with amnesty advocates, the fast food industry unions and pushing for a minimum wage of $15. we will take it up with the "a-team" [ engine revs ] ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] the merces-benz winter event is back, with the perfect vehicle that's just right r you, no matter which list you'ren. [ santa ] , ho, ho, ho! [ male announcer ] get thell-new 2014 cla250
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lou: fast food workers are to go on strike in 100 cities across the city on thursday. organizers are demanding wages more than doubling. up to $15 per hour. more than double the current federal minimum wage of $7 and 25 cents per hour and a new poll reveals that americans don't trust each other anymore.
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only one third say most people can be trusted. and that compared to half who felt that way in the early 1970s. in the denver post naming a new marijuana editor. beginning in january of next year. joining us now, the "a-team." political director ed rollins and stephen hayes for "the weekly standard" writer, good to have you with us. and georgetown university professor brad blakeman. help me out, there is what appears to be a most peculiar political winds i've ever seen work. >> the service employees union, amnesty advocates of the fast food workers, the restaurant industry association and organized labor itself.
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all behind a movement to strike 100 facilities to raise the minimum wage by more than double. >> this is a grand diversion. the unions were complicit in their support of obamacare and what they should be marching on is the white house and why are people going to shed jobs from full-time to part-time? .is protesting fast food in raising the minimum wage. this is part of obama's plan to change the argument away from the complicity of the union and creating a protest or protesting for the wrong reason. protesting the damage that has been part of the movement for themselves.
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lou: the fast food industry did align itself with other amnesty advocates because they need three quarters of a million votes and it looks like they got a little too cozy to the wrong people and now may be looking at the prospect of higher wages as a result. >> their evolving coalitions and it's not very hard when you're getting people to show up and basically ask for more money. the downside should be anyone who stops for a second and think about it. it's going to go to fewer jobs and there will be more automation and fast food restaurants and the costs are going to be cut in the very people that are out protesting are those that are going to be heard from. lou: what do you make of it? changing coalitions and so
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forth? >> there's a class warfare going on, the important thing to know is the vast majority of these restaurants, small businesses, they are not big corporations and the vast majority are small businesses. so if you put an added burden on that, you're going to lose jobs and not increase jobs and i think to a certain extent, that is what we are moving forward on. >> they want more with what they are trying to do. >> there's no question about that. but the point is -- we have to go to the earlier issue. why are they forming these alliances rather than working in
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small towns all around the country? >> if you put 12 or 15 coalitions together, it's like the old individuals, the bigger the crowd, the vast majority of these workers are happy to have a job in the one place where there are jobs in this industry. and i think that they are going to end up hurting themselves and that is what i would predict at this point. lou: back to obamacare, the former cms director under the bush administration. saying that this thing is going to work at some point and he is a very bright thinker. but the reality is that we are talking about trillions of dollars and elise in the
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democratic party, no one gives a darn what happens to the money and what would be the consequences of the path it has been chosen here? >> it cost too much and he cares too little. the strategist told me the other day that we inherited a bad deal in the next island. a bad deal when we did our job and notes for someone else to work out and that's not the way you govern things. that is unconscionable that the president would take this position and the president had to take the position and he said that it's going to work well by 2017. >> closing in on this issue, that is mitch mcconnell saying that it's time to stand up the tea party and the gop establishment that has to do better. seems to be republican leaders
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are embracing us. >> i hope that that is not the broader subject. i think that what mcconnell was trying to say is don't have conservatives going after other republicans and it's not necessarily a new argument but a divide. we've been watching out in the field and i think tea party groups have done a large service to the republican party by injecting dollars and man-hours and helping republicans and of course there are downsides to that. but certainly republicans beating the crap out of each other and they're doing it in the press remap we are doing this and the tea party is very instrumental and you want a workforce, you have to have your voice heard.
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lou: ad and stephen and brad, thank you all so much. if you've enjoyed the conversation, and join us anytime at, send us an e-mail or a text or follow us on twitter. up next, the latest update on the deadly train crash in new york city. we are coming right back. stay with us. it found t the doctor we needed was at st. anne's. wiggle your toes. [ driver ] and it got his okay on treatment from miles away. it even pulled strings with the stoplights. my ambulance talks with smoke alarms and pilots and adiums. but, of course, 's a gd listener too. [ female announcer ] today cisco is connecting the internet of everything. so everything works like never before. [ female announcer ] today cisco is connecting the internet of everything. every day we're wking to and to keep our commitments. and we've made a big commitment to america. bp supports nearly 250,000 jobs here.
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lou: federal officials investigating the train crash in new york city yesterday, going 82 hours per mile as it entered aker. dozens injured, seven passenger cars derailed. the records of a police helicopter lifted off and there could be more fatalities. china lost its first unmanned
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rocket to the moon. with the goal of reaching the moon by midmonth. up next, the low prices didn't pay off with enthusiastic retails. my next guest joins us to tell us whether the american economy is a good investment right now. we are coming right back as a business owner, i'm constantly putting out fires. so i deserve a small business credit card th amazing rewards. with the spa cascard from capital one, i get 2% cash back on ery purchase, every day. i break my back ound here. finally soone's recognizing me with unlimited rewards!
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lou: for the first time in seven years, black friday retail sales
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took a dip nearly 3%, down 1.7 billion compared to last year. joining now to assess how uncertainty may affect consumers here and abroad. author of the book streetsmart, jim rogers. >> i'm delighted to be here. thank you. lou: i imagine that things are not as good as they say they are. and i thought you would be aghast at it. lou: no, i'm afraid the only thing going on in the world right now is lots of money. united states, japan, europe, a lot of inflation. and you know that there is
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inflation. never in world history has everyone been printing money at the same time. lou: are you going to shored america? >> no, i'm not. nobody should shored anything right now. especially at a time like this. the people in washington will keep printing money and not all they know to do. lou: let's talk about what we should be fine. we are talking about an economy that is not good. >> they are making the money worth it. printing money all over the world. and they are printing a staggering amount of money in the money will be worth worth less and less on sunday when it ends, we will all suffer very
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badly. everybody watching this show should be very worried and prepared. lou: i am anxious because i have been listening to jim and i know that we will be looking in on us. and the only way for me to be prepared is to make a lot of money. everyone wants to make some money right now before all heck breaks loose. >> i don't know, that's why watch lou dobbs. [laughter] >> i buy the things that haven't gone up so much, agriculture, russia of all things, i've even been thinking about buying poland. [laughter] lou: alumni, that's great. >> i was in russia for 46 years. lou: these guys are acting like a bunch of communists. now they are acting like a bunch of communists.
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>> so what are you talking about? they have been administering those islands for 40 years and we have this, the chinese, and the koreans. >> the really think that they should act like this? the grown-up? lou: i can't find a world leader that i give 2 cents about. >> wilson, the chinese are as
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bad as the japanese right now and why we are involved, i don't know. lou: the japanese are minding their own business. >> why do you care about? >> using someone's son should go get shot? lou: i'm asking you to be sartorial to your friends in china we do business. >> i say to them, wait a couple of hundred years and then you won't have any problems. and why are any of us in a hurry? lou: that is sort of an interesting question and that is why ask it. >> that's what you're paid to do
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♪ ♪ ♪ neil: did you get any work at all done today? to hear the retail experts tell it, more than 1 million americans were shopping online, 100 million americans online. welcome, everyone. they call it cyber monday for good reason. it is the online shopping day of the year. more folks log on and that is because chances are that bosses are doing the same thing and who can blame them? pointing and clicking beats waiting in long lines and
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